I was sent to the East End of London, because they had the first bombing. Anywhere along the river were the first targets. I was sent to Stepney to a first aid post there and they had nothing. What they had was bicarbonate of soda, so I want you to know that I treated everything with bicarbonate of soda. What we got were the flying glass people, the cuts and bruises, the broken legs, that sort of thing

We spent 24 hours on and 24 off. We had cots to sleep on, and meals, but you didn't leave the hospital."

What did you do?
" At the first aid post there were a number of people of all kinds. A lot of them were officers in both St. John's and the Red Cross, and they could get away for weekends. Mrs. Joan Woollcombe had a cottage in Hampshire; she used to go there every weekend. She would come back and say, `I feel terrible, you girls are all here and there I am, sleeping every weekend. We really ought to do something about this.'

We put our headstogether, and decided that it would be wonderful to get civil defence workers out of London into the country for a night's rest. Lord Horder, who was the King'sphysician, said he would write a letter to The Times. He wrote a letter saying that the civil defence workers of London were preventing London from falling. Well, by the next post we got letters from all over the country, because by that time civil defence workers were the heroes and the heroines, and the people in the country felt they owed them a debt."

Any special memories?
" So there we were, with all these letters, and two women. We then had to get people to go. Here were all these hostesses just clamouring for the brave civil defence workers and not one on hand to send.

We decided very firmly that if this was going to succeed you absolutely had to interview everybody. I became the head interviewer.

You found out what their interests were. You weren't going to send a little cockney who wanted to be near a big town somewhere deep in the country; he wanted a sort of local pub and things like that. And you had to get in touch with the hostesses.

We did have a few bed-wetters, which hostesses didn't care too much about, as you can imagine, but this is all par for the course. But apart from that it all went very well. Daphne Du Maurier was one of our hostesses, when she was at Fowey.

The whole idea of the vacations, and getting people out of London, was to prevent breakdown. If the civil defence of London had broken down, England would have fallen. So that was the Country Hospitality Scheme and the three of us worked like dogs. [It] become a permanent part of the Joint War Organisation. "